My new response to CREE. Please check out her blog by clicking on the link Black People: Do Not Comply with The Protocols for our Suffocation and Starvation.
My Comments on the above article: Interesting article CREE. I can't say that it is constructive in unifying all "Non-white" people against their common oppressor i.e. The Racists (White Supremacists) but, it does mention some good points. Up here in Northern California, I've seen two "Black" people working at the "Mexican" chain store up here called "Mi Pueblo Food Market and one working at the "Asian" chain store called Seafood City. The is also one who works at the sushi place across the street from the Seafood City. I suspect that many "Black" people think that they won't get hired at these places and that is the reason. As for "Black" businesses hiring "Black" employees. I am a business owner and out of the 50 plus employees that we have, approximately 30 are "Black" and most of them have given me the most problems. I am serious about that. They act as though I am the slave master, and only want me to be their "brother" after they've jeopardized my business and I have to fire them. The "conscious" ones are fine, I don't have any problems out of those two. I know another "Black" business owner who once had all "Black" employees and would not hire anyone else. One day I walked inside her bakery and all of her "Black" employees were gone. She had all Spanish speakers working in there. I asked her what happened. She said that she got tired of arguing with the "Black" ones, about how to run her business. They would call off sick a lot, be late a lot, leave early, and give the least amount of work. She is a "conscious" person and hated to do it, but she had to stay in business. She said the "Mexicans" came early and left late. They did all of their work plus extra, without any complaints. I'd like to add that these "Mexicans" are not the "Chicanos". "Chicanos" would not be allowed to stand around waiting for day labor, like the "Mexicans" would. They'd also be harassed. Unfortunately most "Blacks" and "Chicanos" would be too proud to do the kind of work that a "Mexican" would do. "Pride" is a detriment not a virtue. I am in Richmond and Vallejo, most of the time and from my observation many "Non-white" people don't know how to get a job or keep one. I had to learn those things from employment assistance programs. We still practice slave behaviors. I don't blame any of us for that. Racism (White Supremacy) has made us who we are, and we must resist it every chance that we get. I hope that this is constructive.
CREE's Response to my above comment can be found at the same link above. Listed below are the parts of it that I chose to respond to.
"And, the Latinos who are not “illegal” and speak English fluently have little need to get work as a day laborer. They are employed of Home Depot, banks, with public works contractors, etc.."
They have the need. They need jobs too. They just don't want to be standing out there with the undocumented "Mexicans". They look at it as an insult to be standing there. It's akin to a "Black" person wanting to work as someone's maid or field hand. You're really going to catch too many "Black" people doing that anymore. It's the same for the "Chicano". There's huge numbers of them unemployed. Instead of hanging out in a labor zone. You'll catch them hanging out at the park or in the house.
"I have hired a black employee six times for 3-6 month periods to do document courier work or maintenance work on my residence. I found them to be exceptionally conscientious and hard-working."
We've hired and fired close to two to three hundred people in the seven years that we've been in business. I am not saying that all "Black" people aren't constructive employees. I have some good employees, that come to work on time and perform how they are supposed to perform. They are the exception though. I do whatever I can to help them, because they are valuable. Hell, I was a one when I wanted to be.
BUT, I am saying that there is a huge segment of "Black" people who aren't constructive to have as employees, and where I am at, they are a plenty. I have had one threaten to shoot me. I've had one throw her uniform off, and curse me out in front of customers, I have had another get caught smoking marijuana in front of the client. I fired him, but rehired him, some months later, because he told me that he had a baby on the way. He was placed on a new site. I caught him a few weeks later with a prostitute on that site. We've caught employees watching movies, eating popcorn, while laying down with pillows and a blanket. They've been caught working out of uniform. tell me they're at work, they really weren't. They've ran up the company phone bill with long distance charges. Watching pornography on my client's computer. Watching pornography on our company's computer. Two have come to work drunk on different occasions. I had one today just not show up or call. The "Chicanos" have given me the same problems. I had one "White" one who
"And, that my contrary experience and observation have led me to a different definition of “non-white” than you are apparently using. Except for a few people called “Afro-Latinos,” it has been my observation that Latinos can and do function as white at times. Many function as white all of the time. I do not view the assignment of a “white” or “non-white classification as a constant or, even, a discreet function but rather one that changes depending on time and context from decade to decade, day to day, or even minute to minute."
I'd like to say for clarification that I use the Compensatory Functional Definitions of a "Non-white" people and a "White" people that are on page 20, in THE UNITED INDEPENDENT COMPENSATORY CODE by Neely Fuller Jr. The interchangeability of a "Non-White" person that you mention is because of the "White" people who have decided to accept the once "Non-white" person as a "White" person. But that only applies to the "Non-white" people who SEE their selves as "White" and are also accepted as "White" by other "White" people. Many "Non-white" people with pale or close to pale skin have that kind of ability, however if they use it to be "White", it is only because of the confusion that is maintained by the Racists (White Supremacists). A Racist (White Supremacist) can come around and shut the whole party down once they find out that the "White" person is actually a "Non-white" person attempting to pass for a "White" person. Check here for the Critical Question
Sometimes the "Non-white" person has perceived that "White" people treating him or her better is because they think that those "White" people believe that the "Non-white" person is a "White" person, when in actuality that "Non-white" person is being mistreated on the basis of color and has not realized it, because they have not asked enough questions about what Racism is, and how it works.
CREE's Response to my above comment can be found at the same link above. Listed below are the parts of it that I chose to respond to.
"And, the Latinos who are not “illegal” and speak English fluently have little need to get work as a day laborer. They are employed of Home Depot, banks, with public works contractors, etc.."
They have the need. They need jobs too. They just don't want to be standing out there with the undocumented "Mexicans". They look at it as an insult to be standing there. It's akin to a "Black" person wanting to work as someone's maid or field hand. You're really going to catch too many "Black" people doing that anymore. It's the same for the "Chicano". There's huge numbers of them unemployed. Instead of hanging out in a labor zone. You'll catch them hanging out at the park or in the house.
"I have hired a black employee six times for 3-6 month periods to do document courier work or maintenance work on my residence. I found them to be exceptionally conscientious and hard-working."
We've hired and fired close to two to three hundred people in the seven years that we've been in business. I am not saying that all "Black" people aren't constructive employees. I have some good employees, that come to work on time and perform how they are supposed to perform. They are the exception though. I do whatever I can to help them, because they are valuable. Hell, I was a one when I wanted to be.
BUT, I am saying that there is a huge segment of "Black" people who aren't constructive to have as employees, and where I am at, they are a plenty. I have had one threaten to shoot me. I've had one throw her uniform off, and curse me out in front of customers, I have had another get caught smoking marijuana in front of the client. I fired him, but rehired him, some months later, because he told me that he had a baby on the way. He was placed on a new site. I caught him a few weeks later with a prostitute on that site. We've caught employees watching movies, eating popcorn, while laying down with pillows and a blanket. They've been caught working out of uniform. tell me they're at work, they really weren't. They've ran up the company phone bill with long distance charges. Watching pornography on my client's computer. Watching pornography on our company's computer. Two have come to work drunk on different occasions. I had one today just not show up or call. The "Chicanos" have given me the same problems. I had one "White" one who
"And, that my contrary experience and observation have led me to a different definition of “non-white” than you are apparently using. Except for a few people called “Afro-Latinos,” it has been my observation that Latinos can and do function as white at times. Many function as white all of the time. I do not view the assignment of a “white” or “non-white classification as a constant or, even, a discreet function but rather one that changes depending on time and context from decade to decade, day to day, or even minute to minute."
I'd like to say for clarification that I use the Compensatory Functional Definitions of a "Non-white" people and a "White" people that are on page 20, in THE UNITED INDEPENDENT COMPENSATORY CODE by Neely Fuller Jr. The interchangeability of a "Non-White" person that you mention is because of the "White" people who have decided to accept the once "Non-white" person as a "White" person. But that only applies to the "Non-white" people who SEE their selves as "White" and are also accepted as "White" by other "White" people. Many "Non-white" people with pale or close to pale skin have that kind of ability, however if they use it to be "White", it is only because of the confusion that is maintained by the Racists (White Supremacists). A Racist (White Supremacist) can come around and shut the whole party down once they find out that the "White" person is actually a "Non-white" person attempting to pass for a "White" person. Check here for the Critical Question
Sometimes the "Non-white" person has perceived that "White" people treating him or her better is because they think that those "White" people believe that the "Non-white" person is a "White" person, when in actuality that "Non-white" person is being mistreated on the basis of color and has not realized it, because they have not asked enough questions about what Racism is, and how it works.
Also, 39 years of my existence was spent in my habitat (page 246 of U.I.C.C.S.C.), the San Francisco Bay Area, particularly in Richmond, CA. I have made many observations of "Black", "Brown", "Yellow", "White" and "Red" people and our interactions together here. "Black" people are killing "Black" people and "Brown" people are killing "Brown" people, almost everyday here on a much higher level than "White" people are killing "White" people. It's been like that since whenever the Global system of White Supremacy was established. I just lost a "Mexican" friend who was murdered on 10/03/12 . I never got the chance to ask him the critical question of whether he was now a "White" person or not, but, when we were teenagers, in a gang together he was definitely a "Non-white" person. I do have a "Mexican" friend at this time who was a "Non-white" person and now sees himself as a "White" person (he answered yes to the critical question) most of the time, and he says that he is treated like a "White" person by other "White" people, and from my observation he gets better treatment from "White" people than I do, but, they do not treat him like they treat other "White" people. However, whenever he meets a "White" person that mistreats him on the basis of his skin color and he can't do anything about it. He gets upset, picks up the phone and calls me, because I am attempting to counter Racism (White Supremacy). For as long as the system of White Supremacy has existed, lighter skinned people have always gotten treated better than darker skinned people and the ones that appeared to be against other "Non-white" people for whatever reason have been nothing more than confused. Here's a joke that Fuller told me, he said that it used to be popular amongst "Black" people who made observations of White Supremacy back in the 1950's.
Three "Black" people, one "Mexican", and a "White" person were waiting at the bus stop. The bus arrives. They all get on. The "Black" people go to the back of the bus. The "White" person and the "Mexican" sit in the front of the bus with the other "White" people. The bus driver looks at the "Mexican" and says "Go to the back or get off the bus!". The "Mexican" says "But, I'm a Mexican!" The bus driver yells "I don't care what kind of nigger you are, get back there with the rest of the niggers, or get off my bus!"
"Also, I do not know how any white guy in a pick-up truck would know how to distinguish between a “Chicano” and a “Mexican.”
"Also, I do not know how any white guy in a pick-up truck would know how to distinguish between a “Chicano” and a “Mexican.”
Of course there's always an exception, but I suspect that "Mexicans" age five and under that have spent more time and energy (20 to 30 years) here in the so-called United States aka "Mexican Americans" or "Chicanos", have a different way of behaving than the "Mexicans" aka "Mexican Nationals" age five and over that have spent more time and energy (20 to 30 years) in so-called "Mexico". They stand out from each other, to anyone who observes their behavior. For example- Most so-called "Chicanos" will wear the same type of clothing that you and I might wear, because they are more into show-offism (page 41 of UICCSC) than the "Mexican Nationals" . So-called "Mexican Nationals" are not "American" fashion conscious about the clothes they wear. I've spent a lot of time with them, and go by what I've learned from them. I guarantee that a smart and powerful "White" person can tell the difference between them.
"As an experiment, I asked two black male associates to request applications at 4 different taco shops."
Instead of having two "Black" males there should be a combination of 10 "Black" males, that should apply. Have two of them that speak Spanish, Two that speak Chinese, Japanese, or Tagalog, two others in suits, two others that are clean cut and wearing suits, two others with braided hair, baggy pants, and hoodies, two that are a mix of of all of the factors above, and so on. then I suspect that you'd have a more accurate observation. Just a suggestion of course.
I've known six owner's of small "Mexican" restaurants, including one taco truck ( as far as I know, we don't have any taco shops up here in the bay). But, the owner's that I know didn't follow any application process. They hired people based on who they knew (friends, friends of friends and relatives), which is what most small businesses do. They don't have enough time to look at applications and do interviews. Most of these people don't learn anything about business. They do what they do from trial and error. One that I know really well owns a restaurant and market in Petaluma, CA. He didn't know anything about running one at all. In fact I gave him the idea to start it. When we were still in the streets, his mother did so good with her credit that Amex gave her a 100,000.00 credit limit. I told him that they should use that to start a business. Five years later they started it. Most of his clients are Spanish speakers. That would be the only reason that he would hire a "Black" person, and I say that for the others too.
"All but one request was met with the response “we don’t have any” or “only so-and-so has them and I don;t know when he’ll be here.”
I tell all of my employees, not to tell anyone looking for work, where I am, when I am going to be there, or give them my number. And we started our company to provide jobs, specifically to "Black" males. The problem is that so many people think that I'll give them work if I see that they really want a job. They use up the time that I spend to keep the business running. So, I avoid talking to people who need work, until I am ready to talk. I am not saying that some "Mexicans" aren't doing what you suspect them of doing, because I've met a lot of confused "Mexicans". But, your observation suggests that most of them are that way. They've been affected by White Supremacy too. I'd like to add that, when you understand White Supremacy and how it works, you will agree that there are only three types of people in the known universe. That's my reason for using quotes around "Mexican".
Suggestion: If you want to get paid full-time while working for someone, make getting that kind of work into work.
Reason / Explanation: Getting paid to do work is a number's game. You have to be dedicated. You cannot go out and ask two people for work and expect to get hired. That can happen, but it rarely does. You have to work to get work. You must spend six to eight hours a day, five days a week looking for work. You must have a plan.
"People, all people, will take chances and ask for work when they need it if there is any reasonable chance of getting it. The reason that black people do not apply more to Asian and Mexican restaurants is because experience has taught us that there is virtually NO chance of being hired there."
They should go out thinking that there is a chance, anywhere, at anytime, and in anyplace.That is what makes a chance reasonable. If you think that you don't have a chance, before you even start, then you've lost and really didn't have a chance in the first place. Having a chance starts with giving yourself a chance first.
"Since, according to the U.S. Census Bureau, only 5% of black owned businesses have even one employee, the fact that you have 50 and that you know another black business owner in the same area who also has more than a few employees would certainly make you a very distinct anomaly/exception."
Wow. I didn't know that the census bureau kept track of businesses. The Small Business Administration should be the one to keep count. All of what I said is true. I didn't know that we were doing that well. I guess we have a story to tell, then. I will call BLACK ENTERPRISE MAGAZINE tomorrow! We aren't known to be a "Black" owned business. Our brand doesn't show it, and we don't boast that we are one. There's no need to lie here. I'd have to say that there must be some Racist Subversives within the census bureau messing around with the numbers (which is highly probable), because both businesses are in Richmond, CA, and there are a few others. Because of her business, which provides pastries all over the Bay Area, I cannot divulge who she is without her permission, and because of my partner's affiliation with our company, I will not say who we are yet. I've been wanting to for quite sometime, but, he is worried that it might affect our company. I disagree. One of the "Black" employees whom was an extreme problem (she came to work whenever she wanted to, not when we needed her to), sent him emails with links to this blog and my YouTube channel, because she thought that it would have gotten me fired. But, I can't be fired. BLACK ENTERPRISE MAGAZINE should be able to give a more accurate number of "Black" businesses, I think.
"That in this exceptional experience, you describe the behaviors of your black employees as would the typical white person is beyond interesting. It is, I regret to say, hard to believe."
The fact that what I am describing is exactly how the typical Racist Suspect would describe it is the whole point that I am making. "White" people aren't making this stuff up, these are actual facts that do exist. And Racism (White Supremacy) is the culprit behind these facts. The problem with most "White" people is that they place the blame for how we behave on us, instead of on the Racists (White Supremacists). Our people behaving in the primitive ways that we behave is the fault of the Racists, bar none.
I don't know what the population of ignorant "Black" people is in San Diego. But, here in the Bay Area, there are huge numbers of them. I am talking about the kind that need to practice the 10 basic stops on pages 49 to 56 in the U.I.C.C./S./C. on a daily basis. They are the pool of people that we have to hire from. The Racists have convinced many of us that being ignorant is our culture and we should embrace it. What I try to do is show them that this kind of "lifestyle" (which is what it is commonly referred to) will lead you to death or Greater Confinement. And I am talking from experience. I witnessed a "Latino" male get murdered was eight years old and I witnessed a "Black" female get murdered, when I was 12 years old. We had two crime scenes on our block that we played in. We used to jump over the chalk outline of the bodies, saying that if you stepped in them, you'd be haunted by that person's ghost. I've seen pools of blood. I've seen piles of blood, brain, and bone all in pieces meshed together.
Let me show you:
"Finally, the same black guys standing all day in the traffic median selling candy; or hustling hard at a gas station trying to make money washing windows and pumping gas; or at the do-it-your-self car wash offering to take over the duties for a little cash don’t, to me, evidence the detrimental “pride” you speak of."
From my experience these kind of "Black" males (and I am one of them by the way. Smile.) that you are describing actually did and continue to do these things either because they / we like their / our freedom, are trying to make extra money on the side, don't know how to get and keep a job, and / or (the most unfortunate and very real issue) are addicted to drugs and need money to get high. I've sold a lot of things myself, I sold candy all through my existence, umbrellas, pies, fish, sodas, books, clothes, powdered and rock cocaine, marijuana, crystal meth, guns, cars, newspapers, and a lot of other things coming up in Richmond, CA. I've mowed lawns between 10 and 13 years old, I washed cars, had a yard sale at eight years old. You heard of that kid with the lemon aid stand? That was me. Me and two "Mexican" kids set it up on the corner of 23rd st and Hellings Ave.
Anyway, for the majority of the "Black" males "in the street" that I know, (myself included) that is the ones that are entrepreneurs like you described above, don't want to work for anybody else. We do those things not only because we have to, but, because we don't want to have anyone telling us what to do eight hours a day, five days a week. Because having someone telling us what to do, day in and day out, while under the system of Racism (White Supremacy) reminds us that we aren't men. We'd rather work for pennies than go through such a humiliating experience.
CREE's With Great Appreciation to El Presidente: Hugo Chavez Post
http://cree7.wordpress.com/2012/10/08/with-great-appreciation-to-el-presidente-hugo-chavez/#respondThere are plenty of "Latinos", "Asians", and "Arabs" who think just like Chavez, the problem is that the Racists (White Supremacists) do a pretty good job of keeping "Black" people thinking about the ones that don't. The ones that don't are small in number when you check out the "leaders" of the world. One of the earliest presidents (1823 to 1824) of "Mexico", Vicente Guerrero was "Black" and he openly professed it. The White Supremacists try to depict him as a "lighter" skinned person and even have portrayed him as "White" on occasion to keep us confused. There were other "Black" people involved in the politics of that "country", as well. Black and Brown Unity Through The Lense of The "Mexican" Revolution But, history is best qualified to serve those who do the research.
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Even if we disagree VGQ is what we have to keep us united.
CREE thank you for doing what you do. It inspires me to write.
Those videos are very disturbing. It's really heart breaking to see brothers acting that way. It's a shame they believe that is what black culture represents. We really need to change our perception of ourselves. We got to do better.
ReplyDeleteI read the entire post, and while I am duty bound to refrain from critiquing statements made by other victims, I can attest that the behavior discussed herein and displayed in the videos are truth. The same behavior patterns (attire, hair "styles", thinking) can be (have been) observed on the streets of Memphis, Atlanta, Birmingham, Nashville, Little Rock, Louisville, Houston, and a few other places I'm from.
ReplyDeleteAccording to compensatory logic, the system of racism produces only two types of black people - monsters and monstrosities.
I think the videos are evidence of this.
Racism must be replaced with Justice.