I suspect that this speech was constructive.
James S. Brady Press Briefing Room
July 19, 2013
1:33 P.M. EDT
THE PRESIDENT: I wanted to
come out here, first of all, to tell you that Jay is prepared for all your
questions and is very much looking forward to the session. The second
thing is I want to let you know that over the next couple of weeks, there’s
going to obviously be a whole range of issues -- immigration, economics, et
cetera -- we'll try to arrange a fuller press conference to address your
questions.
The reason I actually wanted to come
out today is not to take questions, but to speak to an issue that obviously has
gotten a lot of attention over the course of the last week -- the issue of the
Trayvon Martin ruling. I gave a preliminary statement right after the
ruling on Sunday. But watching the debate over the course of the last
week, I thought it might be useful for me to expand on my thoughts a little
bit.
First of all, I want to make sure
that, once again, I send my thoughts and prayers, as well as Michelle’s, to the
family of Trayvon Martin, and to remark on the incredible grace and dignity
with which they’ve dealt with the entire situation. I can only imagine
what they’re going through, and it’s remarkable how they’ve handled it.
The second thing I want to say is to
reiterate what I said on Sunday, which is there’s going to be a lot of
arguments about the legal issues in the case -- I'll let all the legal analysts
and talking heads address those issues.
The judge conducted the trial in
a professional manner. The prosecution and the defense made their
arguments. The juries were properly instructed that in a case such as this
reasonable doubt was relevant, and they rendered a verdict. And once the
jury has spoken, that's how our system works. But I did want to just talk
a little bit about context and how people have responded to it and how people
are feeling.
You know, when Trayvon Martin was
first shot I said that this could have been my son. Another way of saying
that is Trayvon Martin could have been me 35 years ago. And when you
think about why, in the African American community at least, there’s a lot of
pain around what happened here, I think it’s important to recognize that the
African American community is looking at this issue through a set of
experiences and a history that doesn’t go away. (Until White Supremacy is Replaced With Justice)
There are very few African American
men in this country who haven't had the experience of being followed when they
were shopping in a department store. That includes me. There are
very few African American men who haven't had the experience of walking across
the street and hearing the locks click on the doors of cars. That happens
to me -- at least before I was a senator. There are very few African
Americans who haven't had the experience of getting on an elevator and a woman
clutching her purse nervously and holding her breath until she had a chance to
get off. That happens often.
And I don't want to exaggerate this,
but those sets of experiences inform how the African American community
interprets what happened one night in Florida. And it’s inescapable for
people to bring those experiences to bear. The African American community
is also knowledgeable that there is a history of racial disparities in the
application of our criminal laws -- everything from the death penalty to
enforcement of our drug laws. And that ends up having an impact in terms
of how people interpret the case.
Now, this isn't to say that the
African American community is naïve about the fact that African American young
men are disproportionately involved in the criminal justice system; that
they’re disproportionately both victims and perpetrators of violence. It’s
not to make excuses for that fact -- although black folks do interpret the
reasons for that in a historical context. They understand that some of
the violence that takes place in poor black neighborhoods around the country is
born out of a very violent past in this country, and that the poverty and
dysfunction that we see in those communities can be traced to a very difficult
history.
And so the fact that sometimes
that’s unacknowledged adds to the frustration. And the fact that a lot of
African American boys are painted with a broad brush and the excuse is given, well;
there are these statistics out there that show that African American boys are
more violent -- using that as an excuse to then see sons treated differently
causes pain.
I think the African American
community is also not naïve in understanding that, statistically, somebody like
Trayvon Martin was statistically more likely to be shot by a peer than he was
by somebody else. So folks understand the challenges that exist for
African American boys.
But they get frustrated, I think, if they feel
that there’s no context for it and that context is being denied. And that all
contributes I think to a sense that if a white male teen was involved in the
same kind of scenario, that, from top to bottom, both the outcome and the
aftermath might have been different.
Now, the question for me at least,
and I think for a lot of folks, is where do we take this? How do we learn
some lessons from this and move in a positive direction? I think it’s
understandable that there have been demonstrations and vigils and protests, and
some of that stuff is just going to have to work its way through, as long as it
remains nonviolent. If I see any violence, then I will remind folks that
that dishonors what happened to Trayvon Martin and his family. But beyond
protests or vigils, the question is, are there some concrete things that we
might be able to do.
I know that Eric Holder is reviewing
what happened down there, but I think it’s important for people to have some
clear expectations here. Traditionally, these are issues of state and
local government, the criminal code. And law enforcement is traditionally
done at the state and local levels, not at the federal levels.
That doesn’t mean, though, that as a
nation we can’t do some things that I think would be productive. So let
me just give a couple of specifics that I’m still bouncing around with my
staff, so we’re not rolling out some five-point plan, but some areas where I
think all of us could potentially focus.
Number one, precisely because law
enforcement is often determined at the state and local level, I think it would
be productive for the Justice Department, governors, mayors to work with law
enforcement about training at the state and local levels in order to reduce the
kind of mistrust in the system that sometimes currently exists.
When I was in Illinois, I passed
racial profiling legislation, and it actually did just two simple things.
One, it collected data on traffic stops and the race of the person who was stopped.
But the other thing was it resourced us training police departments across the
state on how to think about potential racial bias and ways to further
professionalize what they were doing.
And initially, the police
departments across the state were resistant, but actually they came to
recognize that if it was done in a fair, straightforward way that it would
allow them to do their jobs better and communities would have more confidence
in them and, in turn, be more helpful in applying the law. And obviously,
law enforcement has got a very tough job.
So that’s one area where I think
there are a lot of resources and best practices that could be brought to bear
if state and local governments are receptive. And I think a lot of them
would be. And let's figure out are there ways for us to push out that
kind of training.
Along the same lines, I think it
would be useful for us to examine some state and local laws to see if it -- if
they are designed in such a way that they may encourage the kinds of altercations
and confrontations and tragedies that we saw in the Florida case, rather than
diffuse potential altercations. (This is a message to the Effective Number, who must start examining "state" and "local" laws and taking action enough to sway public ["White" folks] opinion towards making sure that these laws get changed. Racist Suspects have been using them against "Black" males heavily. See here)
I know that there's been commentary
about the fact that the "stand your ground" laws in Florida were not
used as a defense in the case. On the other hand, if we're sending a
message as a society in our communities that someone who is armed potentially
has the right to use those firearms even if there's a way for them to exit from
a situation, is that really going to be contributing to the kind of peace and
security and order that we'd like to see?
And for those who resist that idea
that we should think about something like these "stand your ground"
laws, I'd just ask people to consider, if Trayvon Martin was of age and armed,
could he have stood his ground on that sidewalk? And do we actually think
that he would have been justified in shooting Mr. Zimmerman who had followed
him in a car because he felt threatened? And if the answer to that
question is at least ambiguous, then it seems to me that we might want to
examine those kinds of laws.
Number three -- and this is a
long-term project -- we need to spend some time in thinking about how do we
bolster and reinforce our African American boys. And this is something
that Michelle and I talk a lot about. There are a lot of kids out there
who need help who are getting a lot of negative reinforcement. And is
there more that we can do to give them the sense that their country cares about
them and values them and is willing to invest in them? (Get your organizations ready for the resources that will come your way if your involved in helping young "Black" males.)
I'm not naïve about the prospects of
some grand, new federal program. I'm not sure that that’s what we're
talking about here. But I do recognize that as President, I've got some
convening power, and there are a lot of good programs that are being done across
the country on this front. And for us to be able to gather together
business leaders and local elected officials and clergy and celebrities and
athletes, and figure out how are we doing a better job helping young African
American men feel that they're a full part of this society and that they've got
pathways and avenues to succeed -- I think that would be a pretty good outcome
from what was obviously a tragic situation. And we're going to spend some
time working on that and thinking about that.
And then, finally, I think it's
going to be important for all of us to do some soul-searching. There has
been talk about should we convene a conversation on race. I haven't seen
that be particularly productive when politicians try to organize conversations.
They end up being stilted and politicized, and folks are locked into the
positions they already have. On the other hand, in families and churches
and workplaces, there's the possibility that people are a little bit more
honest, and at least you ask yourself your own questions about, am I wringing
as much bias out of myself as I can? Am I judging people as much as I
can, based on not the color of their skin, but the content of their
character? That would, I think, be an appropriate exercise in the wake of
this tragedy. (A truly open and honest discussion about the so-called "race" issue, must be had and should continue until the system of White Supremacy is eliminated.)
And let me just leave you with a
final thought that, as difficult and challenging as this whole episode has been
for a lot of people, I don’t want us to lose sight that things are getting
better. Each successive generation seems to be making progress in
changing attitudes when it comes to race. It doesn’t mean we’re in a
post-racial society. It doesn’t mean that racism is eliminated. But
when I talk to Malia and Sasha, and I listen to their friends and I seem them
interact, they’re better than we are -- they’re better than we were -- on these
issues. And that’s true in every community that I’ve visited all across
the country.
And so we have to be vigilant and we
have to work on these issues. And those of us in authority should be doing
everything we can to encourage the better angels of our nature, as opposed to
using these episodes to heighten divisions. But we should also have
confidence that kids these days, I think, have more sense than we did back
then, and certainly more than our parents did or our grandparents did; and that
along this long, difficult journey, we’re becoming a more perfect union -- not
a perfect union, but a more perfect union.
Thank you, guys.
His words sounded constructive and were definitely soothing to the hearts and minds of huge numbers of people (and yet painful to others), I hope that they are the prelude to some serious steps towards solving the problems that "Black" folks have inherited from Racism (White Supremacy). Right now, Obama's got nothing to loose. There is no more re-selection for him. He could come out and talk about Racism (White Supremacy) every single day, and there wouldn't be a damn thing that anyone could do about it. If he did that, he'd be the boldest, baddest, greatest, "leader" that ever lived..... Just by using his words. I could be incorrect.
Stay Strong In The Struggle To Replace White Supremacy With Justice
His words sounded constructive and were definitely soothing to the hearts and minds of huge numbers of people (and yet painful to others), I hope that they are the prelude to some serious steps towards solving the problems that "Black" folks have inherited from Racism (White Supremacy). Right now, Obama's got nothing to loose. There is no more re-selection for him. He could come out and talk about Racism (White Supremacy) every single day, and there wouldn't be a damn thing that anyone could do about it. If he did that, he'd be the boldest, baddest, greatest, "leader" that ever lived..... Just by using his words. I could be incorrect.
Stay Strong In The Struggle To Replace White Supremacy With Justice
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